My Photo
Muslim Bloggers Directory

« Love, Beauty & Compassion in Authentic Islam | Main | Senator Obama on Eid ul-Fitr »

September 30, 2008

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00e553e526cd8834010535035d91970b

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Dr. Corbin: You are race-baiting and fear-mongering:

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

scooter

In a recent article, James Carville agreed with Dr. Corbin's statement (see link). Given your logic in the above article, wouldn't it follow that Mr. Carville is both a race-baiter and fear-monger? It's interesting, to say the least, that a liberal doesn't face the same scorn as Dr. Corbin. Moreover, it also doesn't seem logical that Alan Keyes would hire a racist as his campaign manager, especially in such a crucial state. Also, after actually reading about the Clarmont case in NH (as it looks like our author neglected to do), it would seem Dr. Corbin's objection to the decision was the fact that the Supreme Court of New Hampshire was creating a right. As any "political scientist" knows, the court has the power to interpret laws, not make them. Finally, the feeling of civil unrest and riots that occurred after both the Rodney King riots and OJ Simpson trial were certainly racially motivated, as would any unrest that would occur if Sen. Obama was not elected.

Junaid M. Afeef

Scooter:

1.) Here's what Carville said:

CARVILLE: Let me be clear, I said you can call the dogs and light the fire and leave the house. I think it sounds over.

Now let me be clear here, if Obama goes in this race with a 5- point lead and losing this election, the consequences are -- bull, man. I mean I don't think that's going to happen, but I think David it's a point to bring up.

But you stop and contemplate this country if Obama goes in and he has a consistent five point lead and loses the election, it would be very, very, very dramatic out there.

My Assessment: It's hard to understand what the heck Carville is saying, but you are right, it does sound like he's intimating at unrest (and perhaps riots). So here is my response - yes, that is race baiting and fear mongering too. Just because Carville is a democrat doesn't immunize him from stupid comments.

2. Claremont Decision

The NH Supreme Court rendered an opinion based on their analysis. You can, as did Corbin, characterize it as "creating a right" but obviously that point of view did not carry the day, now did it?

3. You obviously missed the point about acute vs. chronic trauma as pointed out hereinabove. I'm not going to bother re-explaining it here as it was quite clear the first time.

Scooter

1. I am glad that you agree that James Carville disserves the same labeling and treatment that you’ve applied to Dr. Corbin. Unfortunately, as with Dr. Corbin, I think you’ll be hard pressed to find a logical argument that would conclusively prove that Mr. Carville has any beliefs that his color makes him superior to others. In fact, not to belabor the point, but I doubt Dr. Corbin would work for Alan Keyes’ Presidential Campaign if he were a racist. Nor, do I believe Mr. Keyes’ would hire him.

Also, its hard to see how Dr. Corbin’s views on education in New Hampshire play into an argument that he is a racist. Moreover, given my previous remark, I don’t think its fair to logically reach the conclusion that Dr. Corbin doesn’t believe in adequately funding education. Rather, he doesn’t believe its the court’s place to create a right (which it isn’t). Although this point did not “carry the day,” American history provides a lot of examples of points that didn’t carry the day (slavery, for instance). It doesn’t necessarily mean we should accept anyone’s logic and use that to justify accepting it.

In closing, my point for bringing the example of Mr. Carville up in this instance is to illustrate the slippery slope that’s created when we attack a man’s name, rather than an argument. Unfortunately, by attacking a man’s name and applying labels (in most cases, illogically) and characterizations to him, it also shows that we can become what we might be seeking to fight: in this case, intolerance.

Scooter

Detroit, Oakland, and Philadelphia - cities that have suffered riots before - are bracing for the worst, putting SWAT teams and tactical units on standby....Guess city officials and anyone who authorized riot police to be on standby must be a racist.

Scooter

Recently, I was reading Mike Huckabee's new book "Do the Right Thing" and finally found the perfect language for how to describe this and several posts on this sight....

"I call this new breed of political animal, which carriers an attitude of supreme superiority for its "purity," the "faux cons."

When public comments of mine similar to these get published as quotes (whether accurately or not), the blog world lights up with cruel and angry reaction that essentially proves my point. I don't take issue with what they believe, but the smugness with which they believe it. Faux-cons aren't interested in a spirited or thoughtful debate, because such an endeavor requires accountability for the logical conclusion of their argument. Their passion for their point of view goes beyond "loud and proud" and just substitutes volume for veracity. Faux-cons use dismissive language to accuse those who disagree as being anything from RINOs, socialists, big-government Republicans, or religious nuts. (The tarred me with nearly all those labels.) Once such dramatic lines of demarcation are drawn, an honest dialogue over the details pretty much disappears."

The day you decide not to be a faux-con (an insult I consider as bad as the words you used to describe Dr. Corbin) let me know. Until then, feel free to hide behind your mask of un-spirited and illogical debate.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been saved. Comments are moderated and will not appear until approved by the author. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Comments are moderated, and will not appear until the author has approved them.

Blog powered by TypePad